For this edition of Memory Mondays I have decided to answer some genealogy questions.
I want to start with how I began my research because it is something I recommend. I was afraid of the internet and sharing too much. When I started researching I used the Ancestry dot com subscription at our local library as well as the website Family Search. I also researched in collections of local libraries and the courthouse.
When I found documents related to my family, like a census record or draft card, etc, I printed them on paper and put them in folders. I talked a friend into day trips to a Presidential library that specializes in genealogy where we researched newspapers in our state, first on microfilm and then computers when they digalitized them. These holdings include many newspapers not available on line and we are able to make copies of articles. I made so many copies that it was worth buying a membership to get a reduced rate on copying, lol.
I also made a spreadsheet for every generation so I could chart when I had copies of birth certificates, death certificates, census and military records so I knew what I was looking for.
Having everything on paper was good for me as a visual person. And with my family traditions - very necessary. We like to name babies after relatives and, for example, in the case of my maternal great grandfather, he and two cousins who were all born in the same township in the same year shared the same first and last name. Having the paper copies I could compare all the information to make sure the documents I had belonged to the correct person.
I developed my family tree for about a year before I joined Ancestry and put my tree online. I have found lots of misinformation about my past relatives on line and people don't seem to respond to messages about it.
Another example. One census lists my great grandmother Maud as Mary. Most people's family trees list Mary as a sister. There is no Mary.
Same family, Maud's mother Isabell raised my grandfather after her death. People confuse his Isabell for my grandfather's mother even though she is listed as grandmother on most census records. After he married, Isabell lived with them and is listed on census records as "mother-in-law". This has lead people to assume she is my grandmother's (his wife's) mother. You can imagine the mess this makes with the wrong family attached to the maternal side.
I knew these people and know I'm right (lol) but people will disagree with me and keep sharing the wrong information.
How do I store this information.
I have files of all the information I find on paper copies. I try to attach it all to the tree on Ancestry. And I purchased Roots Web so I can have a copy on my laptop not attached to the internet. I am a total failure at Roots Web and haven't updated it in a decade. I bought a newer version thinking that would inspire me. It didn't.
So yes, I have a room of papers. Original documents are kept in acid free boxes I purchase from library supply vendor Gaylord.
How do I share information or do I share information.
Oh, lots of ways. First, I send portraits and pictures to Walgreens and print 4x6 copies which I attach to my china cabinets. I test the little grandchildren on who is who. They are pretty good at it.
Several years ago I made picture books from Shutterfly for all the grandkids. The first page has photos of them, then the next two pages are parents, then grandparents, etc. It goes back maybe 4 -5 generations. I did do captions, especially with military information which the boys are particularly interested in.
I created a private facebook group for each side of my family where I share information, finds and photos. I try to encourage other relatives to share too but it is mostly me. All my children are members of the groups, too.
I have done a little research on my husband's tree which is challenging because he was born in another state and most of his grandparents and great-grandparents are first generation. Once I found a family picture on Facebook from his mother's side showing her father and his eight siblings as young adults. I thought this was so amazing that I made copies for all his siblings and his mother. The siblings loved it (except one) and his mother called me and informed me that this is NOT my family and I have no right to have this photo (that I found on Facebook). So that is one experience.
On my mom's side there is a line that I had no information. I started with her grandfather's name, a family legend that wasn't true and all records in a small rural community in another state and not available on line. I contacted a relative through DNA and we compared what we could find. Now move forward to a genealogy conference last spring and a course I took on using the new feature on Family Search that reads text of old court documents.
My great grandmother was Lavantia and I wasn't even sure of her maiden name. Census records said she was born in New York or New Jersey. I put in her first name and married last name and up popped about 12 pages.
It was a lawsuit brought in the 1850's by Lavantia's mother Catherine which listed her husband's name AND all seven of her children listed with their spouses first and last names. This was completely new information to my family. I printed all the papers because they are scans of handwritten pages from the 1850's and difficult to read. I got into messages on Ancestry and offered to mail copies to relatives I had identified who were THRILLED. No one had figured out how to get past these walls and here it was!
I also commented on a facebook post in my town which put me in touch with someone whose great grandmother was my great grandmother's sister. And she was the keeper of the family photos! She came to my house one day and let me scan a rubbermaid tube of papers and photos. We later located the great granddaughter of one of their brothers and all met for coffee and discussion.
I love to share resources and finds especially in person!
The last question is where all this stuff will go.
I sincerely doubt any of my five children will want to take custody of all the paperwork. Or even the original photos. I am hoping to eventually convince one of my grandchildren to take over. We do have a very active local genealogy chapter who would house some original items in their research library along with a self published book. I would just need to put that together. In my spare time.
Whew my head is swimming, this is incredible Miss Merry. It’s wonderful, those books you created for your grandchildren. And it's amazing, connecting with someone on Facebook who was a descendant of your own great grandmother sister. I've always been sadly surprised how quickly we all forget who we've come from after our grandparents, nice to know there are exceptions to this like yourself. 🙂👍
ReplyDeleteI did a similar thing on Facebook for family photos…one cousin got really mad…possibly still is as she is a turd. I have one Grand who loves family research so she will get all my stuff. I made a book of my husbands fraternal side!
ReplyDeleteKudos for all your sleuthing to find more about your ancestors. Yes, the Ancestry site often seems to have been messed up by eager unfortunate misinformation. I've stayed with it, because I've got several different family trees on it, but seldom take hints from other trees. They have to show me their sources! So I may or may not have the furthest back ancestors that even DAR people have published. That's caused a rift between me and my DAR member cousin, because we have differences in one line. Just because a genealogist made a report doesn't make it true! I only have a few notes on paper, and copies of some old letters, who knows where the originals went, I never even saw them. I do enjoy seeing old documents that sometimes pop up on line.
ReplyDeleteYour dive into this is much more detailed than the year I put in on Ancestry! Your MIL sounds lovely.😉
ReplyDeletelol...as if you have spare time!
ReplyDeleteThough it would be a good idea to gather everything and do a self publish. I do a self publish book of photos and memories every couple of years.
Yes. Since my Sis loves all the Ancestry details, and has traveled to Salt Lake City and Ireland and England to get a lot of our own heritage, I leave all those dates and names to her, and since I'm much older, I have a great many real memories of knowing a lot of the older generations, plus I had a Mammaw with a SWANG. I learned more family history out there on that porch shelling peas or butterbeans ---the real ideas and happenings and who it was that had the family band, and what Uncle corresponded with Miss Gene Tierney for decades---those little personal histories with the endorsement of the first-hand REAL FOLKS.
ReplyDeleteSo she's the historian, and I'm the storyteller---it works out great.
You inspired me today when I read this, to repeat a LAWN TEA blog post from exactly fifteen years ago, and I've linked you in today's LT post for reinforcement. Bravo aux historiens !
It’s amazing what can be done if you know the country and language. You also need drive and determination. Good luck and keep going.
ReplyDeleteWow! Miss Merry! You always amaze me. How do you get all that done? It's wonderful, but you must be very focused. I was on Ancestry.com years ago and got some info concerning paternal and maternal sides (Ireland, England, and France). I did print out some of it and do keep it all (unorganized) in a box. Hopefully I will get back to it someday.
ReplyDeleteI love the picture books you made at Shutterfly for the grandchildren. You are grooming that generation to eventually take an interest in genealogy. I'm a firm believer that there is always one person in every family in every generation who will take an interest and be the keeper of the flame so to speak. Keep your ears open and eventually you'll figure out which one of those little ones it will be.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, this is fascinating and I have read every word of this post at least two times. I am SO impressed by your work. Bravo to the max. I didn't know about the new Family Search feature and I'd love to find court documents on my great grandfather who ended up in the asylum for his last 13 years, so I'm off to check that on this cold day. I'm the keeper of photos and data here and the year before last wrote a 300-plus page book tracing back the history of my mom's family on both sides. I used as many photos as I could find have, through my generation and that of out next ones. Each family member ordered a copy. But like you, I don't know what to do with all the files and photos. I'm thinking one of my cousin's children, now in their 40s and 50s. You don't really start caring about this kind of stuff till then. It's digitized but there is something so precious about the paper copies of photos. Well done. I wish you were my genealogy guide -- I have to start on my dad's side!
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